Ableton for Mac upgrade nonsense
Ableton just emailed us all to ask for money for the next upgrade (I am trying to make this description as neutral as possible).
At the same time, Apple just released computers across 3 out of ~5 or 6 Mac product lines with a new chip whose impact on legacy software is unknown. Until I compare an Apple chip computer with my own plugins, other software, and latency experience on my own intel mac mini, I don't trust anything to work, except native software for the foreseeable future.
Below is my email exchange with Ableton support (pro-tip: if you reply to Ableton's "noreply" email address, you still get a response; /boringdystopia
Date:11.11.2020 20:59:37Message body:I see that you are asking for money for further software support.\Could you tell me the status of this fee-for-continued-patches upgrade'scompatibility with the Apple's new chipset for their "Mac" line of devices,the only line of their devices that you support at all?*Thanks,*
Live 11 was developed under high operational effort with consideration of our user's expectations to new features and content.
Upgrades to new versions of Live, such as 10 to 11, are paid upgrades and version updates, such as 10 to 10.1 are free.
Please note Live 10 will continue to be supported with maintenance updates free of charge and there is no need to upgrade to Live 11 right away.
Live 11 will run on Catalina. It is not yet officially compatible with macOS Big Sur but we are working on it.
You can refer to this article to track macOS compatibility, and we will update here once Big Sur is officially supported:MacOS Compatibility with Live
We suggest to use Live only with officially supported OS versions and do not recommend updating to Big Sur until all of your DAWs, third party plugins, and audio drivers are supported.
Thanks for your understanding and if there is anything else I can help with please let me know!
In light of this, I hope to find some reason not to immediately just shift DAWs to Logic Pro, which would involve work.
And then there's this: https://www.reddit.com/apple/comments/jwt5ns/m1_macbook_air_vs_intel_macbook_air_ultimate/gcs8zdv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Logic Pro: 94 tracks vs 8 tracks
That's on a fanless device, but who knows what the latency is.
I already have Logic Pro, so learning it now both future-proofs me and saves me over $200 CAD. But it involves a bunch of workflow adjustments. What are you going to do if you're on MacOS?
The educational price for the entire suite of Apple tools for movies, music, and a bunch of other stuff I don't know about is less than the price of the "20% discounted upgrade" to Suite 11, and the stand-alone non-educational price of Logic Pro X for the rest of us is less than the upgrade to Suite 11 from Suite 10, I think.
TL;DR: is Ableton upgrade price worth it if you're on Mac?
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Help! question about the new M1 chips and Applications.
Ok i'm thinking about buying the new 13inch macbook pro. But i'm wondering how many applications i use would it actually work with. Obviously Photoshop will be ported over pretty soon, but what about applications like Ableton live? That is very important to me. Also premiere pro and after effects. Now i realize it can run ios apps that just makes it so much better. The windows sticky notes app is on my phone, pc and laptop but its not on mac OS and thats also very important to my workflow so there are definitely some benefits to this new OS.
What do you think of the situation? https://www.reddit.com/ableton/comments/he7mbs/do_you_think_ableton_will_be_compatible_with_the/fvplw2i/
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